In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with a discussion of how Donald Trump has enriched himself and his family during his presidencies. David discusses how these ill-gotten gains bring up difficult questions about the future of American democracy.
Then David is joined by former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to discuss the impact of the Trump presidency on America’s allies, its reputation around the world, and the politics in the Pacific.
Finally, David ends the episode with a discussion of  Red Dawn Over China: How Communism Conquered a Quarter of Humanity, by Frank Dikötter.
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00:00 Cold Open
01:13 Trump's Ill-gotten Wealth
03:43 Kleptocracy and Dynasties
05:20 Democratic Self Defense
06:21 Meet Malcolm Turnbull
07:35 Why the Right Radicalized
11:29 Australia Climate Culture War
13:39 Trumpism Goes Global
22:51 Multiculturalism Versus Reaction
26:29 US Alliance Weakening and Hedging
29:57 Hedging After Iran War
38:52 AUKUS and Middle Powers
40:11 Corruption and Rule of Law
53:21  "Red Dawn Over China: How Communism Conquered a Quarter of Humanity"