The Pentagon has spent years building AI tools to help identify targets, speed up battlefield decisions, and make war more “efficient.” What started as an effort to analyze drone footage has grown into something bigger and much more unsettling.
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Sean talks with Bloomberg’s Katrina Manson about Project Maven, the Defense Department’s long-running push to bring AI into warfighting. They discuss how these systems actually work, what “human in the loop” really means, why autonomy is no longer some far-off sci-fi scenario, and what happens when the speed and scale of machine decision-making collide with the fog of war.
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling)
Guest: Katrina Manson (@KatrinaManson)
Chapter Titles
0:00 Intro
00:48 What is Project Maven?
8:00 Is there a human in the loop?
17:26 The chain of decision-making
22:26 Is full autonomy the future?
26:24 The conflict in Iran
31:16 The disagreement between Anthropic and the DOD
35:52 The morality of AI warfare
41:57 Will AI tech migrate from the battlefield to police forces?
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